American Honda’s total fleet sales for CY 2011 equalled 13,037 units. And you still haven’t answered if it’s just as easy to qualify as a potential GM fleet customer. Drive your dreams with Honda Malaysia Corporate Fleet Sales Programme. Then you can buy any Ford they sell, like a Mustang GT or Raptor if you want. For example if you see a Charger SE chances are that it is a fleet car. As of this writing, Enterprise Car Sales lists 200 former rental Hondas for purchase. As municipalities have looked to green their fleets, they’ve turned to Honda hybrids as well. Auto industry watchers know that the redesigned Civic was harshly reviewed, prompting a quick 2013 refresh in response to criticism. Service: (770) 933-5850 The L model barely exists. 4 mpg better than industry average Fleet average CO2 emissions bettered the industry average by 49 g/mi Honda set all-time record for electrified vehicle sales in … And they were right. Though, to be fair, in my neck of the woods Honda dealers are far more transparent and professional than most of their competitors. Unfortunately, major fleet vehicle remarketing company Manheim doesn’t provide data on sales to anyone but licensed auto dealers, so I wasn’t able to scan their listed inventory for Hondas. It can also mislead investors and analysts who assume that the 1-2% figure truly covers all Honda fleet sales. It sounds like a perfect trade for you… Not that GM wouldn’t force you buy a total of 20 hearses for fleet deals. Try and rent an Accord or Fusion and see what you’ll get. I hit the moderation wall with a bad word. The days when the Detroit 3 practically gave their excess production away to their captive rental arms is long over. Honda CORPORATE FLEET SALES PROGRAMME. Pay significantly above MSRP for a Honda? With Toyota flooding the market with Camry appliances at low ATP and heavy incentives, those same flood of models will be swelling used inventories. we have with similar mileage. I’m sorry, but your article is inaccurate, and filled with suppositions that I’ve just shown to be incorrect. Oh you can get premium cars from the rental agency, ya just gotta pay. Plus dealers will often promote the used cars because they can be more profitable, easier to finance to people with bad credit, ect. My one question, is how many of those sales to rental outlets are to run the same dealers loaner fleet. There’s all sorts of stories about Rick Hendrick and Honda America and the greed (gouging) of the dealers. I’m aware of what you pointed out about rental car programs and how many purchase decisions are made on a franchise only, case-to-case basis. for purchase. http://www.gmfleet.com/business-fleet-eligibility-enrollment.html, https://www.fleet.ford.com/get-started/eligibility-documentation/. Toyota at 14,000 and the biggest DROP in fleet The point of the article is that yes, it’s all speculation because Honda makes sure to hide the reality. There’s less evidence that regular-drivetrain Hondas make it into government fleets in any great quantity, although I have personally seen them used by some universities as service vehicles. Chris Hansen. Great article and one that makes perfect sense. I’m not sure if the ~20 Honda Fit we bought so far count as fleet sales since we buy them through local dealers (they are not on State contract as the Detroit cars we buy). If I asked the average buyer what they rented last they probably couldn’t tell me unless it was awful. Agree 100%…I fail to see the smoking gun here too. We encourage you to come and visit us at 4500 Wible Road to view our selection in person, speak to a sales professional or take a Accord, Civic, HR-V or Fit for a test drive. Skip to main content. The rental companies are also keeping their cars a LOT longer – I turned in a Passat with 45K on it Friday. They are an auction service company not an industry data tracking company like RL Polk. You originally wrote at 10:36pm on my clock that: ‘And Ford qualifies anyone with a business licence as an official fleet customer. Alright, you got me on a technicality. If a dealer reported a sale as ‘fleet’, it doesn’t get taken out of its retail allotment. Before I went there, I shopped another local dealer who flat out said they could not match Grand Honda’s prices. Revisited this trainwreck of a conversation. No matter how nice the upper trims may be, the 2011 W-Body Imp I had for a week while waiting for delivery of my new Honda this past March was a real piece..the non-OnStar ovoid mirror with integrated map lights last seen in GMs and Toyotas circa mid-2000s was inadequate to see beyond the HUGE back headrests. Then you can buy any Ford they sell, like a Mustang GT or Raptor if you want’. The majority of these are Accords, with Civics not too far behind, and models from the entire rest of the range sprinkled in. They want to create demand by creating the idea that the Fusion is in short supply. Meet Our Managers Staff. Enter your registered email address to request a password reset link. And its much-vaunted strategy of ignoring the fleet market and concentrating on retail sales is usually interpreted as a sign that Honda leads on per-unit profitability and “real” market share. How many Crosstours did Honda sell, 6? And the fleet buyers who don’t churn their fleet will demand the same price that the churning-buyers get. Also downtime for repairs and service is important. Rather, its massive depreciation causes fleet sales to be unprofitable. Hertz also has hundreds of Hondas available, mostly 2012 Civics and a few Accords. We analyze millions of used cars daily. Get Driving Directions. Ford as usual sold the most, 40,900 units giving Ford the highest percentage going to fleet. There you go twisting things again. When I wrote about Toyota’s rising vehicle stockpiles, heightened fleet sales, deep discounts, and the resulting collapse of its pricing model, there was plenty of heated discussion. I have no clue how to qualify as a limo/funeral home etc customer…nor do you apparently. TTAC, if you are going to do an article like this, next time provide actual data, not some nebulous guess work. Fleet sales are not a bad sign, sometimes it is because they are the right vehicle for the intended useage. These are regular models being sold by a franchised RETAIL dealer. As a new and used car dealer, Arrowhead Honda also staffs qualified technicians to fix and maintain your car, truck, SUV, or van in a timely manner. And no membership needed. Phone. However, it is possible to run 20%-30% fleet mix or even a bit higher and still be able to do both in some segments…you just have to be very careful. The other point missed is that a hit on resale at the 2-3 year point damages the residual which hurts leasing. Polk’s policy is to get the data from state DMVs in states that will provide the information, and from dealers in states where DMVs won’t release the data. That seems high considering there are less than 20000 2013 Corollas showing. Always wondered what the deal was with this location and what really happened why they closed. Especially for franchisees that are possessed of fewer resources. The available navigation system and BluetoothⓇ Streaming makes it convenient to listen to your favorite music while getting around. What about Camry and Fusion? to be sure that the majority of rental cars are from the domestic brands. If you product is of good quality then the extra fleet sales should not hurt the reputation or demand for you product. @madanthony makes the basic point on the risk of being too heavy into daily rental fleet. I am well aware that Honda is not in the business of producing “fleet trim” models in the same way that GM, Chrysler, or other manufacturers do. I am in part apprehensive, yet curious, to see what response this garners from you. AWD helps, but so does good ground clearance and a generous cargo area. Fleet Sales Crown Honda Southpoint Offers Special Lease and Purchase plans for Raleigh-Durham Area Businesses No matter what industry you're in, at Crown Honda Southpoint we work with companies small and large to give special pricing on Honda fleet vehicles. Then they can break down which Manufacture sells what to where. The most of any company. I drove a Mustang GT to my class reunion. I pretty sure Honda is quoting the RL Polk data when they say they have a 2% fleet since they don’t have an internal fleet department. They probably don’t know the number themselves, just passing along what fragments of info they do have collected….. Call or visit Showcase Honda of Phoenix for all your new and used Honda vehicle needs in the region today! Commercial and government fleet sales were almost always profitable. But the dealer body didn’t get much out of the prosecutions; many of them lost millions of dollars, and others alleged that their businesses were ruined because they refused to “play the game” with Honda execs. Unless of course, Enterprise just pulled a 1997 Tercel from their fleet that I saw on their car sales website a few months back. However, not the implication: the rental company that buys some Hondas will not be receiving a special manufacturer-sponsored incentives package that would reduce the price. Most dealers prefer that I would think….. Maybe one shuld separate fleet sales to Rental car companies (that sell them after 2 years) and fleet sales to businesses/governments. No further proof is need. with a website specifically dedicated to facilitating fleet purchases. The price you see is the price you pay. It breaks down the data by commercial, government, and rental fleet too. Search Log In. I did. Honda does not have a corporate fleet unit. Search from 325 Used Honda CR-V cars for sale, including a 2005 Honda CR-V EX, a 2011 Honda CR-V EX-L, and a 2012 Honda CR-V EX-L ranging in price from $3,775 to $35,601. Search over 317 used Honda Accord vehicles in Troy, MI. So without a reliable number showing a percentage of cars are fleet then there is a lot of speculation in this article. The small Honda Fit are in much better shape (both interior and also how they drive) than the Ford Taurus/Malibu etc. Automotive News puts the Accord at around 1% fleet mix, well behind its rivals. General Sales Manager. ‘And Ford qualifies anyone with a business licence as an official fleet customer’. Translation: The real fleet number is probably more like 8-10%, similar to what Toyota sells (10-12% fleet). ... Fleet Sales (626) 756-3846 Email Me. U r very unusual. Toyota, at least, has acknowledged its difficulties with the Camry and has moved to help out its dealer network with a combination of incentive spending and diverting excess production to fleets. Done with the tools you need? Even if Honda’s fleet penetration is deeper than they may suggest, they still pale in comparison to the likes of the Big 3 (domestics). In the mid-90’s, the big 3 actually started requiring their rental customers to keep cars longer just to avoid cannibalizing new sales. So if the car depreciates heavily, the fleet buyer is going to demand a much lower price than if the car holds its value, since it is the 1-2 year depreciation from the price paid that determines whether car A or car B is more expensive. TTAC has a long tradition of digging deep into manufacturer sales data, frequently focusing on retail versus fleet sales. If the Fleet manager loves them, they sure don’t cause much trouble. Monty, Yawn. No more big ads and the ads for the new dealer were for prices in line with everyone else. The article is saying many sales may not be classified as fleet, or are not recognized by Honda as fleet, when reported. Why not just look at the actually registration data from RL Polk via Automotive Fleet? I pulled out my Metro-card (subway pass). Lynch described a corporate culture that saw dealers as a nuisance and an inconvenience, a culture he alleges was facilitated by averted eyes in Tokyo. @Sunridge – Don’t quit while you’re behind… Clearly you’re out of new material when the insults come out. You didn’t point out the ‘license only’ deals…you told us all that Ford doesn’t require volume…only a license….good lord. You arrive at the dealership and ask for him by name, he then takes you to an office to negotiate a deal on the car you want to buy. What I’m trying to show is that despite Honda’s insistence that fleet sales are a vanishingly small part of their overall sales, there’s some evidence to suggest that isn’t the case. I’m sure if I checked each dealer listing I would find a few that are fleet as well, but at least Chrysler and GM are relatively forthright about fleet sales, compared to Honda. Sitting in line at the local “Timmy’s” I had to stop for a bit, when an Altima, Goverment car was in line ahead of me. Maybe the TTAC can determine the truth about Ford’s apparent inability to meet EPA numbers with its lamentable Ecoboost products – that would be a service to consumers and, in the long term, to Ford itself. However, this will only work in the short term as a longer term addiction to fleet sales eventually erode resale values. When the market for new Hondas declined in the early 90’s (and dealers could no longer sell the cars for thousands of dollars above sticker), the whole scheme unraveled. However, those are for special areas of the fleet business….not ‘anyone’ with a random license anywhere in the business world. See good deals, great deals and more on Used Honda Element in Ann Arbor, MI. But it does put more pressure on dealers, and it has the potential to be corrosive on resale values and owner loyalty. And Toyota is now playing the game with L trim level for fleet – at least on Camry. Your whole original point was that ‘anyone’ could get access to Ford Fleet with a business license. Most fleet cars as a whole are fine and usually sell for a fair bit less than a just off-lease model. It’s not just a sample, it’s the whole population of new vehicles registered that year. My god it’s massively ungainly compared to the CVPI. Advantage to fleet managers isn’t only few repairs and good mileage (almost 35 mpg city-driving). We don’t recieve any fleet support from the manufacturer via the dealer. Do you really think that a company with 5 new registered sales in a year gets access to direct sales from Ford or GM or any OEM? (I would point out, though, that “fleet trims” seem to be on the decline, at least as far as rentals are concerned.) This dealer advertised BIG in the local papers with some really good prices, not your typical “Loss leaders” or MSRP prices. Fleet sales and Honda Courtesy Vehicle Program vehicles are not eligible. Ford is usually @33% fleet. I’ve always thought the problem with rentals is that many manufacturers use them as a way to unload stripped down models, some that they would never even sell to the public. they also frequently have incentives tied a very specific model. The Honda brand represents dependable, high performing corporate vehicles, passenger vans & trucks for business leasing. As many above have said, if you walk into a dealer, whether as an individual, or representing a corporation, they will sell to you. I’ve never been able to place it! It differs that way for any OEM in various areas of fleet. However, that doesn’t really matter to my thesis, one way or another. The OEM gets to call it and record it as “Retail”. For that reason, I have a hard time believing those 2012 Civics entered the fleet at significantly higher prices than the Focuses, Corollas, and Cruzes that they compete with. Structure My Deal tools are complete — you're ready to visit Crown Honda of Southpoint! This is why I come to TTAC. Durham, NC 27713. So, I’ll add this…there might be another comment above or below. Surprised Impala this low, and Honda this high. Apparently Honda wasn’t lying when they say that their fleet % is 1-2%. A new Honda Pilot is the definition of a modern family SUV. Why do TTAC allow such weak articles to be published, unless this was an op-ed? That is not the case. Even if it costs Toyota some credibility, it’s a better strategy than simply throwing cars at dealers and hoping a miracle happens. They are the ones who have responsibility for finding and making fleet sales, which I’ve endeavoured to demonstrate are reasonably common. Honda, it appears to have adapted a ‘Keep It Simple’ (see what I did there…) strategy – we give you cars, you sell as you see fit. From small and medium entrepreneurs to multinational giants, we are dedicated to take you through your Fleet ownership journey, which entitles you to enjoy an array of exclusive benefits. Seriously, that’s all there is to it. And you still can’t answer 3 simple questions? Visit Riverside Honda for great selection & prices on New & Used Honda cars, trucks & SUVs. But it has to move inventory somehow and what better way than to stuff its nearly invisible the fleet channel? “That doesn’t mean Honda sells zero cars into fleets.”. However, those makes include substantial numbers of trucks and commercial vans that Honda doesn’t offer. It’s purpose is solely to advertise a low base price. I am sure Hertz got a discount on the Maxima I am driving at the moment, but I bet Nissan still made money on it. We offer no-haggle pricing on every used Honda in stock. , mostly 2012 Civics and a few Accords. It’s a single data point but that indicates Accord at 18% fleet vs 32% for Impala. Really, fleet sales are a business issue more than anything else. Toyota and Ford are also heavily represented in these hybrid fleets, but Honda still makes a strong showing. Honda has no problems when it comes to dictating to it’s dealers , or changing whatever rule they choose , whenever they choose. Does Honda have “fleet specific trims”? Still a much preferable ride to the Maxi-pad though. How the dealer reports the sale is up to them. and Chevy with the HHR, I’m pretty sure the Outbacks where all trucks too. Is this editorial an audition for a propaganda job with the O***a regime? Barber Honda is a leading provider of new 2020 Honda vehicles and used cars to Bakersfield thanks to our quality automobiles, low prices, and superior sales staff. Would be hard for Honda to say 2% is the number after reading through this. Honda’s incentive spending on the marquee Civic and Accord is significantly lower than rivals. You’ll see that Honda’s 1-2% claim is basically the truth. That’s probably just the way it is today ,they are scrambling for the fast buck, just like everybody else. Even so, Honda products have a habit still show up in a variety of fleets. But don’t stop at digging up dead threads!!! My point was that if I have a business license as a plumber and have bought 1 vehicle in the last year and tell Ford I want to be a fleet customer…I cannot. Other times mfgs will put special incentives on particular models or versions of a model. You may be able to buy a Honda Fleet through fleet sales. Check out the links in my comments for The Real Truth About Honda’s Fleet Sales. Rental sales on the other hand. I went to the BMW dealer. But what if Honda’s position relative to the fleet market isn’t as strong as previously believed? Usually it does. Search new and used cars, research vehicle models, and compare cars, all online at carmax.com I think we might be putting a little too much importance to this. You just have to convince the Feds of a station wagon’s SUV capabilities. Ford has more fleet exclusive models than any OEM, like class 4 & 5 trucks. Here’s what it shows: Total new vehicles registered: 12,662,089 In the case of sales to rental car agencies the mfg often dictates the mix of trim levels and colors, if they want to qualify for the buy back program, that the mfg in turn uses to supply their CPO programs. A press release from Honda on July 2 about rising sales crowed that “These solid results further showcase Honda’s pure, market-driven momentum achieved by customers choosing Honda vehicles one at a time rather than relying on fleet sales to drive volume.” The mantra about retail sales is clearly a big part of Honda’s marketing schtick. Yes, Honda doesn’t have fleet department so they don’t know direct if a sale is to fleet or retail. One misleading aspect of this article that deserves to be addressed: The “Honda Fleet Sales” graphic that is being used to lead this article came from the website of a Honda dealer in Oklahoma. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s no longer true. Besides, Honda hasn’t been the same since Soichiro Honda died. CONTACT US. Then you say that I’m correct…then you add: ‘I pointed out the ‘licence only’ deals because I know you won’t. A dealer’s volume incentives aren’t determined by who the buyer is. The fact remains that the vast majority of rental car inventory comes from Detroit, and only a tiny percentage of it comes from Honda. BD. Any credible lender will loan me more money for a Honda product and it turns faster than average. If you were in the Chicagoland area, you could not miss cars with their license plate frames on them. Directions The price you see is the price you pay to buy a used Fleet Cars for Sale at our dealerships near you. @Sunridge – Yes I said you are correct and not all potential fleet customers qualify with just a business licence. One day service every year is acceptable. Government agencies need 1 purchase last year or 3 current. Polk is s major consulting firm in the industry. GM and the rest require proof of a current 15 vehicle fleet and proof you bought 5 new fleet vehicles last year. Plus Nissan increase in incentives All I was doing is pointing out that you were wrong with such a broad, and incorrect, statement that Ford lets anyone with any license access fleet. Our dedication to customer service has been recognized by our 2018 President’s Award — the highest honor given to Honda dealerships for superior performance. They only let license access to a small percent of their fleet…which anyone else does too. http://www.automotive-fleet.com/statistics/statsviewer.aspx?file=http%3a%2f%2fwww.automotive-fleet.com%2ffc_resources%2fstats%2faffb13myreg-manuf.pdf&channel=, CY 2012 fleet registration data by vehicle/model While Honda USA does not have a corporate fleet program, there is evidence of Honda vehicles in fleets, as I showed further up in the thread. Jesus, however, now he is a Honda guy, he just never speaks of his own Accord. From my experience, the Fleet vs Retail has come out of manufacturers using different production allotments for Fleet and Retail. Their last full year of data posted is for CY 2011. Prices are competitive, do an online quote and they will come down about 10% off sticker. At Arrowhead Honda, we provide a variety of services from oil changes to transmission replacements. “I’ve seen too many rental Camrys, Corollas, Altimas, etc. It has no need to participate in some elaborate conspiracy to conceal fleet data from the American public. I would like to know about the apparent 40% drop in Honda sales in Japan reported recently on TTAC. they likley don’t get sold for a few years and sure will fetch a good price (low miles, 5K-10K miles a year if at all). But they still need to move inventory so what better way than to stuff the nearly invisible fleet channel? Even so, a casual scan through the listings reveals a surprising number of totaled-out Accords and Civics that had titles held by rental car companies or otherwise appear to have been former rentals. For the sake of fairness, it’s time to ask the same set of questions about the company whose business strategy most nearly matches Toyota’s: archrival Honda. Obviously rental car suppliers like Ford are mad at Honda for pointing out the the truth that Ford isn’t in the game when it comes to purchases by individuals. I stumbled on the CrossTour issue when I encountered a disconnect between Accord sales touted by a Honda fan, and Accord sales reported by Automotive News or Wards, can’t recall which. There’s less evidence that regular-drivetrain Hondas make it into government fleets in any great quantity, although I have personally seen them used by some universities as service vehicles. Why? View our inventory of used Honda cars and SUVs for sale. Honda corporate does not provide fleet discounts. But this is a very well written, researched article. We have 1,156 Honda Pickup Trucks for sale that are reported accident free, 1,028 1-Owner cars, and 1,289 personal use cars. As to the Imp fleet cars, I can relate. We invite you to reach out to our Fleet Specialist Tony Puccio at. Just stop making those statements like that and you’re good by me. In parallel with increasing number of high-volume Japanese transplant cars in the rental fleet I’ve noticed many more 40k mile rental cars with various dents, scrapes, and stains. It’s become commonly accepted that high fleet percentages are a sign of weakness in product lines, at least as far as retail consumer preference goes. Besides rentals, governments are another important consumer of fleet cars. Of course that’s hype, the Fusion is a fleet queen but they want to make it appear that the car that was supposed to be a great home run isn’t just a base hit. since then we added Honda fit as needed and never sold one. Given the amount of limited data you were able to draw some interesting conclusions, I shutter to think how well you’d do with more of it. Or if they are looking at a new subcompact, they’ll consider a slightly used compact/mid-size instead, and the company loses a profitable retail sale. Welcome toHyundai Fleet. Note that link is for fleet purchasing directly from Ford and not dealers. What’s your connection with GM? Save up to $2,800 on one of 392 used Honda CR-Vs in Ann Arbor, MI. Then it started life as a fleet model. As a frequent business traveler it seems around 07 or 08 the bigs like Avis started offering me Hondas at the counter. Also, one can say a Kia or Hyundai has ‘more stuff’, but where are the 200,000 mile Kias? 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