To this end the ship carried some of the needed materials, such as boiler tubes and three octuple "pom-pom" mounts intended for use in her refit; other cargo included three or four crates of the Elgin Marbles. Was any of the proposed super ships (H Class etc) the equal of two 16 inch treaty BB's? A Type 281 radar replaced the Type 279, a Type 271 surface-search radar was installed as was a Type 284 gunnery radar on the roof of the forward main-gun director. The following month she headed north to Invergordon, Scotland, to join the rest of the Atlantic Fleet in the annual exercises. They had a total depth of 12 feet (3.7 m) and were backed by a torpedo bulkhead 1.5 inches thick. The ship escorted one convoy through the Arctic to the Soviet Union in late 1944. Its non-cemented armour plates ranged in thickness from 6.25 inches (159 mm) over the main-gun magazines to 3.75 inches (95 mm) over the propulsion machinery spaces and the secondary magazines. [31], After Nelson ran aground while leaving Portsmouth in January 1934, Rodney became the temporary fleet flagship when Admiral Lord William Boyle, commander of the Home Fleet, hoisted his flag aboard her for the winter cruise to the British West Indies. I made a very high detailed model of the battleship based on the original drawings. She again became the temporary fleet flagship when Nelson began a lengthy refit the following month and Admiral Sir Roger Backhouse hoisted his flag aboard her. I often wonder why the glacis wasn't sloped on many other tanks look at the Churchill Cromwell and Comet as well as the Panzer IV. [12] Throughout the war Rodney was plagued with leaks as a result of panting and the ship required repairs because of serious leaks in 1940, 1941 and 1944. Rodney's trials resumed after she was formally commissioned and continued until she entered service on 28 March 1928. A comparison between the MEXICO flag and the pirate flag.Described in detail the flags of Royal Navy battleship HMS RODNEY of the Battle of Warships. See more ideas about battleship, yamato, imperial japanese navy. Rodney returned to Scapa on the 29th where she spent most of October training in preparation for the invasion of Northwest Africa scheduled for the following month. A pair of torpedo-control directors with 15-foot rangefinders were positioned abreast the funnel. The sad part is that she was slightly bigger, faster, and more powerful than the Bismark was. [3] The ship was powered by two sets of Brown-Curtis geared steam turbines, each driving one shaft, using steam from eight Admiralty 3-drum boilers. Why build them? Admiral Arseny Golovko visited the ship three days later to coordinate arrangements for defending the convoys. I would agree on a ship that tried to hit and failed being a waste. 1944 Rodney ModRod Fire Power 17 16in/45 hoists, etc, blind spot. The former ship arrived at Greenock to replenish her ammunition, fuel and supplies on 29 May and departed for Halifax on 4 June together with the ocean liner Windsor Castle and escorted by four destroyers. Emperor Hirohito on Musashi in 1943 Friends of Padre Steve’s World This is an old post of my series on Battleships. Britannic was taking civilians to Canada and would be bringing Canadian troops and airmen back to Britain. Leaks, defective riveting, and other problems continued to affect Rodney even after a 1941 refit in Boston, Massachusetts. Captain Edward Syfret relieved Whitworth on 16 August, shortly before Rodney began her annual short refit in September. Almost immediately afterwards, another LCT rammed Rodney's bow, tearing a 9 ft-long (2.7 m) hole in her hull plates and crumpling the bow of the landing craft. HMS Rodney (pennant number: 29) was one of two Nelson-class battleships built for the Royal Navy in the mid-1920s. While steaming in the River Clyde on the 19th, the battleship accidentally rammed and sank the trawler Topaze; only four survivors could be rescued by nearby destroyers. The Nelson class was a class of two battleships (Nelson and Rodney) of the British Royal Navy, built shortly after, and under the terms of, the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922. [39], After finishing her refit on 13 January 1941, Rodney joined the hunt for Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, without success, and then escorted Convoy HX 108 from 12 to 23 February. Rodney departed Gibraltar for to rejoin the Home Fleet at Scapa two days later, but her problems worsened during the voyage as heavy weather further stressed the steering motors and exacerbated her many leaks. Corey Preiss. Since the repairs took several months to complete, Rodney's crew was furloughed to local Civilian Conservation Corps camps for a fortnight. The evasive manoeuvres worsened Rodney's steering problems and issues with her boilers began after Force Z turned back that evening which limited the ship to 18 knots (33 km/h; 21 mph). [57], While at sea with the French battleship Richelieu to conduct a night gunnery exercise on 29 December, Rodney suffered weather damage during a severe storm that caused extensive flooding forward. Bismarck was built with 15 inch guns in mind, Iowa and Yamato have 16 and 18 inch guns respectively. Also keep in mind that the Yamato was better amoured than the Bismarck was. You could also substute any USN 16inch treaty BB to have a more up to date opponent. They arrived at Gibraltar on 14 August and temporary repairs were made. So if the Yamato were to concentrate on one of the Brits, the other would very quickly be delivering a whole lot of straddles... and these would be 16" rounds. The battleship developed serious problems with her rudder on 29 November and was forced to return to Liverpool, steering only with her engines, for repairs that lasted until 31 December. The crew made temporary repairs and the ship remained at sea until she dropped anchor at Scapa Flow on the 17th. Nelson and Rodney have 1 added bonus. Can Yamato outrange N+R? During the Normandy landings in June 1944, Rodney provided naval gunfire support and continued to do so for several following offensives near the French city of Caen. A comparison between the INDNESIA flag and the pirate flag.Described in detail the flags of Royal Navy battleship HMS RODNEY of the Battle of Warships. A severe storm began the following day and caused all operations to cease. Personally I would chose HMS Rodney, crossing our fingers. How about a NelRod verse FusYamo thread that would be the battle of the uglies!!!!! Yamato vs Nelson& Rodney. Captain Andrew Cunningham, later First Sea Lord, relieved Tottenham on 15 December. There is really little prospect of one ship from WWII being able to beat any two opponents from the same generation. After the completion of her post-refit trials in January 1939, Rear-Admiral Lancelot Holland hoisted his flag aboard the ship as the commander of the 2nd Battle Squadron. Aft of the citadel was an armoured deck 4.25 inches (108 mm) thick at the level of the lower edge of the belt armour that extended almost to the end of the stern to cover the steering gear. From what I have read, the Army brass did not want their infantry tanks going tank hunting and not supporting the ground pounders. Italian spies in Algeciras, Francoist Spain, spotted the convoy as it passed through the Strait of Gibraltar on 10 August and Italian reconnaissance aircraft located it the following morning. Vice-Admiral Sir Bruce Fraser, second-in-command of the Home Fleet, was aboard the ship to gain experience in integrating carrier and convoy operations, and was not flying his flag. Any deveation would affect production and they produced them in there thousands. [2], Rodney had a length between perpendiculars of 660 feet (201.2 m) and an overall length of 710 feet 3 inches (216.5 m), a beam of 106 feet (32.3 m), and a draught of 30 feet 2 inches (9.2 m) at standard load. And that was against Taffy3? [63] These included a sporadic, 30-hour operation firing an occasional shell 22 miles (35 km) inland, to prevent a Panzer division from crossing a bridge. I don't know how I missed your reply!!!! In preparation for her role providing naval gunfire support during the Normandy landings, two more Oerlikons were added as was a Type 650 radio jammer in January–March 1944. [8], Underwater protection for the Nelsons was provided by a double bottom 5 feet (1.5 m) deep and a torpedo protection system. Elmer Weis. It might not have been able to take on America or Japan's monster battleships, … [42] Later that morning Admiral Sir John Tovey in the battleship King George V ordered all ship to head north west due to a misinterpreted signal from the Admiralty, but Dalrymple-Hamilton knew that his ship was too slow to catch up to Bismarck if she was headed in that direction and disregarded Tovey's order. [8], The top of the armoured citadel of the Nelson-class ships was protected by an armoured deck that rested on the top of the belt armour. AA 10 More barrells, higher ROF, likely better fire control, fuzing, RPC ATBD 7 … She and Scharnhorst fired on Spitzbergen in 1943, but beyond that, she really didnt do anything with her guns. Playing next. Dalrymple-Hamilton continued south east for several more hours before he decided to obey the order at 16:20; during this time Bismarck passed his position just under the horizon, about 25 nmi (46 km; 29 mi) away. 6 years ago | 11 views. Her crew numbered 1,361 officers and ratings when serving as a flagship and 1,314 as a private ship. Rodney played a major role in the sinking of the German battleship Bismarck in mid-1941. IMHO I dont think that the NelRod battle would last to long.Also note that the Bismarck wasn't sunk by shellfire. The HACS Mk I was replaced by a Mk III director and four barrage (anti-aircraft) directors with Type 283 radars were added for the main guns. Each turret was also fitted with a 41-foot (12.5 m) rangefinder. 265–266; Rohwer, p. 48, Ballantyne 2008, pp. From what I understand or have read, she never hit another ship with her guns. She was transferred to BISCO early that year for disposal and the ship was allocated to Thos W Ward on 26 March to be scrapped at Inverkeithing.[67]. Report. 89–90, 93; Haarr 2013, p. 208; Rohwer, p. 3, 5, 7, Ballantyne 2008, pp. Captain Robert FitzRoy relieved Rivett-Carnac on 25 September. The ship arrived in Gibraltar on 24 September to join Force H.[49], Rodney departed Gibraltar later that day to join her sister in escorting a convoy to Malta in Operation Halberd. Force H provided support for the landings at Salerno (Operation Avalanche) on the 9th, with the battleship only using her anti-aircraft guns. ... That'd make H-3A a very interesting ship, 33kt ship built like a brick with the forward firepower of a Yamato but also stuck with that figure for broadside firepower. Unusual, yes, but that long bow with three massive turrets looks mighty imposing. [38], Nelson returned from the dockyard on 24 July and reassumed her role as the Home Fleet flagship. The following morning Rodney began engaging targets in Caen proper, beginning the gradual devastation of the city, including the destruction of the spire of the Church of Saint-Pierre. She was the first battleship to be so equipped. The fleet visited two Norwegian ports before returning home. I can't think of a better target for diving shell than NelRod. The best BB's are not always the ones that have the heaviest guns and thickest armour. [65], Long-range artillery on the German-occupied island of Alderney was disrupting Allied operations off the north west corner of the Cotentin Peninsula after the landings in Normandy. [33], When Great Britain declared war on Nazi Germany on 3 September 1939, Rodney and the bulk of the Home Fleet were unsuccessfully patrolling the waters between Iceland, Norway and Scotland for German blockade runners and then did much the same off the Norwegian coast from 6–10 September. 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